Monday, August 29, 2005

Samyutta Nikaaya 2.1.2.4

The Second Discourse on Recluses and Brahmins

Dwelling in Savatthi?

Indeed, o Bhikkhus, as for those recluses or brahmins who do not clearly understand these things, do not clearly understand the origination of these things, do not clearly understand the cessation of these things, do not clearly understand the path leading to the cessation of these things:

What are these things that they do not clearly understand, the origination of which they do not clearly understand, the cessation of which they do not clearly understand, the path leading to the cessation of which they do not clearly understand?

They do not clearly understand old-age and death, they do not clearly understand the cause of old-age and death, they do not clearly understand the cessation of old-age and death, they do not clearly understand the path of practice leading to the cessation of old-age and death.

[so it is for:]
...Birth,... becoming,... clinging,... craving,... feeling,... contact,... six sense bases,... body and mind,... consciousness,... they do not clearly understand kammic formations; they do not clearly understand the cause of kammic formations, they do not clearly understand the cessation of kammic formations, they do not clearly understand the path of practice going to the cessation of kammic formations.

These are the things they do not clearly understand, and the origination of which they do not clearly understand, and the cessation of which they do not clearly understand, and the path leading to the cessation of which they do not clearly understand.

Not by me, o Bhikkhus, are those recluses or Brahmins accepted, in terms of recluses, as recluses or, in terms of Brahmins, as Brahmins.

And those Venerable ones, not having known [the above] well for themselves with their own eyes in present reality, do not enter upon and dwell in the goal of a recluse or the goal of a Brahmin.

And indeed, o Bhikkhus, as for those recluses or brahmins who clearly understand these things, clearly understand the origination of these things, clearly understand the cessation of these things, and clearly understand the path leading to the cessation of these things:

What things do they clearly understand, the origination of which they clearly understand, the cessation of which they clearly understand, the path leading to the cessation of which they clearly understand?

They clearly understand old-age and death, they clearly understand the cause of old-age and death, they clearly understand the cessation of old-age and death, they clearly undersatnd the path of practice leading to the cessation of old-age and death.

[so it is for:]
...Birth,... becoming,... clinging,... craving,... feeling,... contact,... six sense-bases,... body and mind,... consciousness,... they clearly understand kammic formations; they clearly understand the cause of kammic formations, they clearly understand the cessation of kammic formations, they clearly understand the path of practice leading to the cessation of kammic formations.

These are the things that they clearly understand, and the origination of these things that they clearly understand, and the cessation of these things that they clearly understand, and
the path leading to the cessation of these things that they clearly understand.

Indeed by me, o Bhikkhus, are those recluses or Brahmins accepted, in terms of recluses, as recluses and indeed, in terms of Brahmins, as Brahmins.

And, indeed, those venerable ones, having known it well for themselves with their own eyes in present reality, enter upon and dwell in the goal of a recluse and the goal of a Brahmin.

[The Fourth]